Miniature V8 Engine

World’s Smallest V8 Engine

Gary Conley’s 30-year quest to manufacture a true production V8 engine in quarter-scale almost went up in smoke twice, once in 2001 when a foundry fire claimed all his critical molds, and later when oil smoke proved a stubborn problem during run-offs of the engine. Conley overcame the first setback with years of sheer determination.

The second issue required using his Sunnen MB 1660 honing machine, abrasives and some expert honing advice from Sunnen. Today, the man for whom “perfection is almost good enough” has a business building his Stinger 609 V8, with a long backlog of orders from collectors and hobbyists around the world, and he credits honing as the process that helped him come up with a smokin’ hot product.

Conley’s Stinger 609 is no toy or novelty, but a serious engine built for high performance and durability. Modeled on a Viper V10 and available in naturally aspirated or supercharged versions, the Stinger has a dry-sump, pressurized lubrication system, electronic ignition, electric starter, split main and rod bearings, steel valve guides and seats.

The bore is about one inch, with a .952? stroke. The crank and cam are 4140, casehardened to 20 microns deep and then ground. The engine uses freestanding, full-wet, cast-iron liners. On the cosmetics side, investment casting gives exceptional detail to parts cast in 356 aluminum and hardened to T6, such as the pan, heads, valve covers, crankcase and timing cover.


Genesis of The Stinger 609

Conley began pursuing his dream – with ample support from his wife – after completing his master’s degree and doing a five-year stint as a teacher. In 1996, his reputation led Chrysler to request that he build a quarter-scale Viper V10. Soon after, a full-size V10 engine arrived at his shop to be “reverse engineered” to the quarter-scale size. After five years of development, with the V10 ready to go into production, disaster struck, when his molds were destroyed in a foundry fire.

More than $350,000 in molds and five years of time vanished. However, Conley retained the mold masters from the V10, and realized he had plenty of knowledge to build on. With steely determination over a period of additional years, he carefully redesigned his tooling to produce V8 components, and thus was born the Stinger 609.

Smoke Gets In Your Eyes

According to Conley, the first units of the Stinger engine burned oil so badly they filled a room with smoke in seconds. He discovered the problem was too much oil being pushed up into the cylinders, and though he did not realize it at the time, his honed cylinder surface was too smooth. “The problem was that the molecular size of oil does not scale down,” he explained. “I thought this was caused by the rings, and spent months assembling engines, making new liners, honing and decking the liners, re-designing the rings and pistons, and testing to no avail.”

Digging deeper into the science of ring and cylinder design, he learned about the nuances of crosshatch, including the proper angle and depth required to create valleys to retain the oil. “At the time, I did not associate Sunnen with a solution to the problem,” Conley said. “I was honing with the MB 1660, but came to learn my surface finish was too smooth.

So, I got a very coarse, 80-grit, 5-hardness J25 silicone carbide honing stone. This produced nice surface valleys for the oil to be retained, but I had not accounted for the surface peaks. After installing rings with an end gap of .003-.004? and running the engine, the end gap suddenly increased to .012?, because the rings were abrading the peaks off the cylinder finish, and the oil issue returned. Bear in mind, we are using stepped cast iron rings only .062? thick, without an oil control ring because there’s no space for one.”

After consulting with Sunnen’s engine experts, Conley determined that plateau honing was the answer. Plateau honing – a second pass with a brush or milder abrasive – removes the surface peaks left by the initial pass. It creates a surface profile that resembles a series of plateaus, providing a much greater bearing area, while maintaining the crosshatch valleys for oil retention. “I once ran a set of new rings in a cylinder that had been plateaued and one that was not,” Conley added. “The plateaued cylinder had no ring wear after run-in. The end gap did change slightly, but this is probably cylinder wear rather than ring wear, because so much happens so fast in these small engines.”

Honing Used On Many Bores

Today, honing continues to be an important step in the creation of Conley’s quarter-scale beasts, and he attributes much of his honing knowledge to Sunnen. “I learned decades worth of information about honing from them,” he said. “Learning how to line hone an engine block straight and true was quite an achievement. We could not get the tandem cam and crank bores on the same centerline without this. Using a three stone mandrel, I can hold .001?, end to end, on a six-inch workpiece.

After the investment cast aluminum block is machined and the main bearing is torqued down, we line hone the bores for the crankshaft and the camshaft. The 4140 camshaft rides on the T6 aluminum, just like a real Viper engine.

The crank and cam bores are about .875? and .625? respectively. We machine the 7075 connecting rods and install a bearing insert that allows the engine to start dry, without oil pressure, and we experience no wear on the crank or con rods. The smallest bores we hone are the tops of the con rods – about .248? – and the piston pin bores. I stack a set of rods on a ground pin using the large end of the rod, then hone the pin bores to ensure they are all at the exact same height and straight.”

Conley stresses he designs for longevity. “Our use of 6-bolt mains makes our lower almost bulletproof,” he said. “We also have crankcase ventilation and split keepers on the valves to keep them in place. Oil filtration is critical on a small engine, too. It’s amazing what comes out of the filter system. “

Conley sources the parts that he doesn’t create himself, including quarter-scale spark plugs from miniature model engine builder Paul Knapp in Payson, AZ, rings from Dave McMillan at D.A.M. Good Engineering in San Jose, CA and castings from Invest Cast, Inc. in Minneapolis, MN. “I’ve been very fortunate to find people who share my passion for creating these engines,” said Conley. “Bill Walker, Sr. at Invest Cast assured me that his group could cast the parts I needed, and they delivered.”

In terms of output, the normally aspirated Stinger produces about 4.5 hp, while the supercharger version hits 9.5 hp at 10,000 rpm. Today, Conley sells the engines with a test stand for collectors, or as crate motors for builders of model boats or other adult toys. “A customer in Austria recently purchased two supercharged engines for an 8-foot offshore boat,” he said. He also offers the engines in a quarter-scale 1934 Ford or 1923 T-bucket roadster, and has his own 7-foot dragster.

Conley was named the Joe Martin Foundation’s 2012 “Metalworking Craftsman of the Year” and enjoys an air of celebrity as he makes appearances at trade shows, signing autographs and holding court with gear heads. “I’m an overnight success that took 30 years,” he mused. And his backlog grows as people find new ways to put the mini engines to work in quarter-scale vehicles of all types.

For additional information on honing with Sunnen tools and abrasives, visit

To learn more about Gary Conley and his engines, visit Check out his video of the Stinger 609 Top Fuel Dragster in action!

this awesome t bucket is really a quarter-scale version from gary conley. far from just a model, it uses a fully functioning v8 engine!the stinger 609 is no toy or novelty, but a serious engine built for high performance and durability. it is modeled on a viper v10 and available in naturally aspirated or supercharged versions."the

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